Sukhoi Su-35 ¿posiblidades de ingreso a nuestro arsenal?

Bueno...es un poquito "audaz" decir que el SU-35 es mejor que el F-35 no creen?? Pienso que el SU-35 es un verdadero monstruo que a pesar de no ser stealth le podria dar una pelea dura tanto al F-35 como al F-22 "Craptor", pero de ahi a decir q el SU-35 es mejor que el F-35...pues..hay mucho trecho!! Sin embargo, por comentarios de algunos expertos gringos el SU-35 es una maquina CAPAZ de derribar a sus aviones de 5ta generacion, pero repito, de ahi a decir q es mejor.... !!

belushitaxx escribió:Bueno...es un poquito "audaz" decir que el SU-35 es mejor que el F-35 no creen?? Pienso que el SU-35 es un verdadero monstruo que a pesar de no ser stealth le podria dar una pelea dura tanto al F-35 como al F-22 "Craptor", pero de ahi a decir q el SU-35 es mejor que el F-35...pues..hay mucho trecho!! Sin embargo, por comentarios de algunos expertos gringos el SU-35 es una maquina CAPAZ de derribar a sus aviones de 5ta generacion, pero repito, de ahi a decir q es mejor.... !!

Creo QUE ES APRESURADO ASEGURAR QUE EL SU-35 NO ES "STIL",bastante se ha hablado de que los avances en diseño(nuevas entradas de aire y motores rediseñados,tecnología de plasma,uso de materiales compuestos en casi toda al estructura),nueva geometría de los empenajes verticales,etc...harían a este avión,sino "stil",casi "stil",el avión es mucho más rápido,porta un radar reputado como más potente(y estamos hablando de la nación que ya tiene radares y misiles contra objetos voladorse "stil"),porta nuevos misiles,de los que nada se sabe y nuevas contramedidas electrónicas,es más maniobrable y tiene soluciones de diseño no comentadas...la opinión de mucha gente conocedora,es que puede hacer frente a los aviones de quinta generación yanki,por lo menos lo será el producto no desvitaminamizado fabricado para consumo interno ruso.

Hasta donde yo se, lograron bajarle el RCS a un poquito mas de 2 metros. Ahora, teniendo en cuenta q el CRAPTOR supuestamente tiene un RCS de 0.001, se podria decir q el SU-35 es una vaca voladora con respecto al F-22. Pero tambien como vos decis, la super grulla esta echa con tecnologia nueva y materiales nuevos q quizas hayan echo posible la reduccion del RCS a menos de 1 metro :O!! Con respecto a los misiles, pues se que rusia desde hace años esta trabajando en toda una nueva serie de misiles y de bombas pero no se a q nivel estaran estos desarrollos!! Saludos!!

Hey...por cierto, hace como dos meses lei 2 foros en ingles, donde se comenta el hermetismo que tenia EEUU con respecto a un posible combate entre el F-22/F-35 contra el SU-35. comentaban que las batallas simuladas no eran muy buenas, es decir, los resultados habian sido poco favorables para los cazas gringos y q debido a eso hay tan poca informacion sobre los simulacros :O!! sera q los gringuitos le tienen miedo a la super grulla? :O!!

belushitaxx escribió:Bueno...es un poquito "audaz" decir que el SU-35 es mejor que el F-35 no creen?? Pienso que el SU-35 es un verdadero monstruo que a pesar de no ser stealth le podria dar una pelea dura tanto al F-35 como al F-22 "Craptor", pero de ahi a decir q el SU-35 es mejor que el F-35...pues..hay mucho trecho!! Sin embargo, por comentarios de algunos expertos gringos el SU-35 es una maquina CAPAZ de derribar a sus aviones de 5ta generacion, pero repito, de ahi a decir q es mejor.... !!

Bichita ESTAS DISOCIADA !!!!

coño tu mejmo lo estas dicendo pero no reconociendo por eso digo que estas disociada.

al reconocer que los gringos dicen que si es papaz de derribar sus 5ta generación, es porque es mejor que en F-35 y con algo de ventaja ademas de que los rusos y los venezolanos son mejores pilotos que los gringuitos.

acá otra vez lo dicen:

"Hey...por cierto, hace como dos meses lei 2 foros en ingles, donde se comenta el hermetismo que tenia EEUU con respecto a un posible combate entre el F-22/F-35 contra el SU-35. comentaban que las batallas simuladas no eran muy buenas, es decir, los resultados habian sido poco favorables para los cazas gringos y q debido a eso hay tan poca informacion sobre los simulacros :O!! sera q los gringuitos le tienen miedo a la super grulla? :O!!" BICHITA


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El caza ruso Su-35 demuestra su supremacía sobre modelos ...
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belushitaxx escribió:Hasta donde yo se, lograron bajarle el RCS a un poquito mas de 2 metros. Ahora, teniendo en cuenta q el CRAPTOR supuestamente tiene un RCS de 0.001, se podria decir q el SU-35 es una vaca voladora con respecto al F-22. Pero tambien como vos decis, la super grulla esta echa con tecnologia nueva y materiales nuevos q quizas hayan echo posible la reduccion del RCS a menos de 1 metro :O!! Con respecto a los misiles, pues se que rusia desde hace años esta trabajando en toda una nueva serie de misiles y de bombas pero no se a q nivel estaran estos desarrollos!! Saludos!!

Hey...por cierto, hace como dos meses lei 2 foros en ingles, donde se comenta el hermetismo que tenia EEUU con respecto a un posible combate entre el F-22/F-35 contra el SU-35. comentaban que las batallas simuladas no eran muy buenas, es decir, los resultados habian sido poco favorables para los cazas gringos y q debido a eso hay tan poca informacion sobre los simulacros :O!! sera q los gringuitos le tienen miedo a la super grulla? :O!!

Es factible que el F-22 FUESE SUPERIOR...si el su-35 no pudiese detectarlo,pero los nuevos radares rusos y chinos están generando desarrollos que pondrían en entredicho la mitológica "invisibilidad" del F-22,asimismo sistemas infrarrojo de gran sensibilidad y largo alcance,y si puedes er detectado,podrá ser derribado.

Mis amigos para mantenernos actualizados.




Sistema de Control de Radar "Irbis-E" para el combate Su-35

RCS "Irbis-E" es un sistema completo de la matriz de la banda X por etapas sobre la base de un haz de control electrónico colocado en el disco en dos etapas (acimut y de inclinación) y los futuros sistemas de computación. La estructura del sistema de control de radar incluye también un aparato de identificación de interrogador modos de funcionamiento de estado Mc-XA y mikronavigatsii bloque.
RCS "Irbis-E", permite la detección, el seguimiento y la medición del aire de coordenadas, subterráneas y de superficie día y noche en los objetivos de todas las condiciones meteorológicas en la presencia de ruido natural y organizada.

Modo "Del Aire al Aire": - Rango de detección de blancos de la EPR = 3 2 - 350-400 kilometros

Campo de visión:
- Elevación: ± 60 grados
- Azimuth: ± 120 grados.
El número de objetivos detectados y seguidos - 30 uds.
El número de blancos aéreos al mismo tiempo que participan - hasta 8 piezas.

Modo de "aire-superficie":
- la asignación de apertura sintética con una resolución de menos de 1 metro;
- real del haz de mapeo modo de DALE,
- selección de objetivos en tierra en movimiento;
- soporta hasta 4 objetivos terrestres;
- apoyar un objetivo en tierra con una encuesta de la conservación del espacio aéreo.




Aplicación
Sistema de Radar de Control "Irbis-E" se utiliza en todas las fases de su uso en combate junto con un equipo de la aeronave en el aire, así como con el equipo a bordo de las aeronaves en el combate aéreo cercano y de largo alcance, en la realización de actividades individuales y de grupo durante el día y la noche en la sencilla y condiciones climáticas adversas, como sobre su territorio y en todo el territorio del enemigo, en la presencia tanto de interferencia natural y deliberada.

Prestación de servicios

- Garantía:
Las garantías son establecidas por el fabricante de acuerdo con el consumidor y el proveedor debe ofrecer garantías de la Su-35 en virtud del contrato y el contrato para el suministro de productos SH135E para completar el Su-35.
la vida útil especificada (la vida) y no debe ser inferior a 6000 h durante la vida útil de 30 años.

- Los tipos de reparaciones:
recursos y la vida útil de hasta el 1 de reparación - 1500 horas, durante 12 años.
TBO y vida de servicio - 1500 horas, durante 12 años.
Promedio de los productos de tiempo de recuperación "Irbis-E" en la etapa de mantenimiento (la solución de problemas la sustitución de unidades fallidas en funcionamiento desde el ISP) no es más de 30 minutos.
medidas específicas para el trabajo especificado en el RA y RE para el producto.

- La posibilidad de aprender:
De acuerdo con los requisitos para la formación de las ayudas, que se define en la especificación para el producto "Irbis-E", el desarrollo de servicios de capacitación están disponibles como los conocimientos tradicionales, emitido por el Cliente. Las propuestas para la composición de los centros de formación en la nota de la ingeniería y la técnica no se deben a la falta de una especificación separada para las ayudas de formación.



http://www.niip.ru/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=7:-q-q-35&catid=8:2011-07-06-06-33-26&Itemid=8

Voy a meter mi cucharita, efectivamente y sin ninguna duda el SU-35 es superior al F-35 Y MAS BARATO, y ni siquiera juegan en la misma liga en fin, eso tiene a más de uno encojonado, pues sí, pero mala suerte para ellos, porque sencillamente el SU-35 puede desarrollar una cinemática muy superior al F-35, al momento de atacar, su radar puede generar la potencias pico necesarias para ver un avión con baja RCS, porque eso es el F-35, nada que ver con el F-22, por otro lado y como es sabido por mucho de ustedes, tanto un F-16, como el nuevo F-35 dependen de multiplicadores de fuerza y tanqueros mismo que son extremada mente vulnerables a la presencia de algo como un SU-35 incluso SU-30 de cualquier tipo. el SU-35 tiene un alcance superior al F-35, sin uso de tanques externos es otra ventaja del SU-35, el uso del súper crucero, otra característica del SU-35, que no tienen el F-35 puede dar al traste con cualquier movimiento de aviones enemigos en zonas poco defendidas de Rusia al tener un caza capaz de estar presente en poco tiempo en cualquier parte de la geografía rusa... el radar como característica ya regular de aviones como el SU-30 y presente el SU-35 capaz de detectar emisiones de energías electromagnética y dirigir un ataque con misiles, pues ciertamente un F-35 puede tener baja RCS, pero al eliminar sus multiplicadores de fuerza este debe usar algún tipo de radar por lo tanto delatando su presencia al enemigo en una en situación de alta interferencia del espectro electromagnético. Solo el F-22, garantiza el éxito, y aun así el Raptor se le puede combatir, el único avión que por el momento puede igualar al F-22 es el PAK FA, T-50. Eso lo saben tanto en gringolandia y Rusia, aun así los rusos que no son pendejos siguen para adelante con el T-50, pero no dejan de ver y comprar a los cazas derivados de la familia T-10, porque permite rearmar modernizar en menos tiempos y a un costo mucho menor que ir por un avión totalmente nuevo... y eso es el SU-27/SU-34/SU-35 y SU-30.

Pero no me paren bolas a mi solamente, aqui esta el analisis de Sukhoi Flanker el cambiante equilibrio Regional AUSAIRPOWER http://www.ausairpower.net/APA-Flanker.html


Saludos.

Por cierto...acaba de salir en ria-novosti que rusia va a comprar 90 SU-35 de aqui al 2020, humildemente !!

OLVIDNSE DEL SU-35 AQUI NO HAY UN GOBERNANTE CON LAS BOLAS BIEN PUESTAS, SOLO ALTANERIAS CONTRA EL IMPERIO PERO NO SE COMPRA LO QUE REALMENTE NECESITAMOS.

LOS GRINGOS SABEN QUE PERRO QUE LADRA NO MUERDE!!!!

Russia’s SU-35 Super-Flanker: Mystery Fighter No More


Apr 19, 2012 16:03 EDT

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Latest updates: Unexpected competition from India; China deal falls through.

SU-35 flight test, 2009
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The Russian SU-35 was something of a mystery for many years.
Pictures from Russian firms showed different fighter jets carrying that
label, even as the aircraft remained a prospective design and research
project, rather an active program of record.

Revelations after 2007 began to provide answers. This article
explains the sources of the widespread confusion regarding the SU-35’s
layout and key characteristics, reviews what is now known about the
platform, and tracks its development. Those developments are likely to
have broad consequences. The aircraft now has a home customer in the
Russian Air Force, and the SU-35 is being positioned to succeed most
SU-30MK variants as Russia’s fighter export of choice within the coming
decade. Will its succession bid succeed?

• Which Sukhoi? The SU-35 Platform
  
• SU-35: Export Prospects [updated]
  
• SU-35: Contracts and Key Events [updated]
  
• Additional Readings & Sources
  

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Which Sukhoi? The SU-35 Platform



SU-35 ?
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As one of our readers noted, DID’s articles from 2005-2007 seem to
describe 2 different SU-35s. One was a mid-life modernized SU-27
Flanker, but there’s also a much more re-engineered “SU-35”
variant with canards, thrust vectoring, etc. which has been confused
with (and possibly redesignated between) the SU-37. So… what do we mean
by “SU-35”?

Until very recently, only KnAAPO had listed the SU-35 as a product
on its site; Sukhoi now does so as well, but Irkut does not. If this
seems confusing, it’s because Sukhoi subcontracts production to
affiliate firms – IAIA (Irkut) and KnAAPO (Komsomolosk un Amur). Each
has their own intellectual property, and their own interests. In
addition, the designation “SU-35” has been used in several different
contexts over the years. It has been referred to, and even photographed,
in ways that referred to both mid-life Flanker upgrades, and
canard-equipped next-generation aircraft. KnAAPO’s site added the
confusion by showing SU-35 pictures on its type page and gallery that
display the aircraft both with and without canard foreplanes.

The current “SU-35”, which has been definitively described by
Sukhoi, appears to be something of a compromise between the upgrade and
full redesign visions. Reader assistance, and sources from Sukhoi and
various media, offer an outline of its key systems and characteristics.


SU-35 flight, 2008
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”...(known as Su-35BM by some sources- ie. T-10BM to the
original Su-27s internal T-10S designation). Differences and features
largely speak for themselves in the video, but a short summary follows
as related in various other sources follows:
1 – N035 Irbis-E PESA (Passive Electronically Scanned Array) Radar, a follow-on to the Bars-M.
2 – No canards
3 – Rear-looking self-defense radar in shorter tail sting
4 – AL-37FU/ 117S thrust-vectoring turbofan engines rated at 142-147kN
5 – Extended high-lift devices with large flaperon occupying the full trailing edge of the wing
6 – L175M Khibiny-M electronic-warfare self-defense system
7 – Reduced-area empennage
8 – Larger Air Intakes
9 – New and lighter systems, including quadruple digital fly-by-wire flight-control system.
10- New man-machine interface with fully-glass cockpit with two large LCD screens and helmet mounted display.”


Movable nozzles
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Sukhoi says that the fighter’s structures have been reinforced
because of the increased takeoff and landing weight of the aircraft, and
the front bearing has 2 wheels for the same reason. Performance is
touted as 1,400 km/h (Mach 1.14) at sea-level, and 2,400 km/h (Mach
2.26) at altitude, with a ceiling up to 10 km/ 60,000 feet. Sukhoi has
not touted loaded supercruise (Mach 1+, with weapons and without
afterburners), which is likely to require improved engines. Thrust
vectoring adds new dimensions of maneuverability, however, once pilots
understand when to use it and when to avoid it.

The SU-35S will also depend on its sensors. It couples an
electronically-scanned array radar with a 2-step electro-hydraulic drive
unit, which creates a maximum radar beam deflection angle of 120
degrees. The NIIP Tikhomirov Irbis-E passive phased-array can reportedly
detect and tracks up to 30 air targets, simultaneously engaging up to
8. It can also reportedly detect, choose and track up to 4 ground
targets, and engage 2. Detection ranges of over 400 km/ 240 miles have
been reported for airborne targets, which are the easiest, but
resolutions are unspecified. Detecting a 747 passenger jet at 400 km is
much easier than detecting a JAS-39 Gripen lightweight fighter, and
information about the radar’s resolution would be needed before its real
capabilities would be clear.

Full stealth jets like the F-22A Raptor, of course, create drastic
reductions in radar detection range that make them a special case. In an
emerging age of stealth fighters, therefore, the 80+ km detection range
of the SU-35S’ IRST (infra-red search and track) system is very
significant.

The SU-30 family has never been especially stealthy, and their
overall airframe design limits what one can accomplish in this area.
Nevertheless, Sukhoi cites an unspecified amount of “reduced
reflectance” for the SU-35 in the X-band, which is a popular choice for
modern radars, and in the angle range of plus or minus 60 degrees.
Further improvements were made during testing by adding radar-absorbent
materials, and removing or modifying protruding sensors that create
radar reflection points.

The reported service life of the new aircraft is 6,000 flight hours,
with a planned operational life of 30 years. The claimed service life
of NPO Saturn 117S thrust-vectoring engines is 4,000 hours. Time will
tell.

SU-35: Export Prospects



Flanker customers
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The SU27/30 Flanker family was designed and built after American had
completed its “teen series” (F-14/15/16/18) fighters, and uses lessons
from those designs as well as Russia’s own approaches. The result was a
very extensible design that boasted impressive performance, and quickly
became the global fighter reference point among global military
planners. Exports followed, and Flanker variants quickly surpassed the
MiG-29 as Russia’s most popular export fighter.

The SU-35 aims to build on that legacy, as a final bridge to the 5th generation PAK-FA. Three key changes to Sukhoi’s circumstances may make a similar level of export success much more difficult.

1. A globalized market.


When it was first introduced, the S-27 family was the main global
competitor to any western offerings, and was sold to countries whose
ties and access to western technologies were weak. An array of SU-27s
were gifted to breakaway Soviet satellites by virtue of being located on
their territory, but India and China were its real anchor export
customers. Now, SU-35 exports can expect to compete on 2 fronts. On the
one hand, a less balkanized global market means that it must compete
globally with western offerings that include upgraded American “teen
series” fighters; and matured 4+ generation European designs that
include Saab’s JAS-39 Gripen, France’s Rafale, and EADS’ Eurofighter.
On the other end, it will be competing with Chinese offerings,
including the J-11 that Russia correctly accuses China of
copying/deriving from the SU-27, the smaller and less expensive 4+
generation J-10, and even the joint Chinese/Pakistani JF-17.


Chinese J-10
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2. The China factor


China has a large inventory of SU-30MKKs, and is also pressing ahead
with its J-11, which substitutes Chinese electronics, radars, and
engines in an SU-27 family airframe. Russia is very upset by this theft
of its intellectual property, which has reportedly hindered sales of its carrier-capable SU-33
variant into the Chinese market. The J-11 is likely to serve as a
similar but less capable international export competitor, while serving
as a barrier to further Chinese sales on both sides of the table.
Prospects may improve if Russia fields the PAK-FA and China has
difficulty with its J-XX project, but the J-11 experience can be
expected to have lasting effects.

China’s questionable status among the roster of future SU-35
customers, and its certain presence as an export competitor, both create
more difficult dynamics for SU-35 export success.


IAF SU-30MKI
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3. Other decisions by key markets.

With Eastern European countries no longer buying Russian equipment,
the Flanker family’s key export markets likely closed, and key emerging
markets that have decided to go in different directions, the SU-35’s
export potential is likely to be much more limited than its
predecessors.

India has fielded, and continues to field, the SU-30MKI, a design
that includes locally-built electronics, canard foreplanes, and full
thrust vectoring. Malaysia has ordered a less customized SU-30MKM variant
that uses Russian and French technologies instead. Both of these
designs are highly capable, and comparable to the SU-35. India in
particular is unlikely to upgrade, as it continues to produce the
SU-30MKI and expects to do so for several more years. That removes a
major potential market, and this design is even filtering back into
Russian orders, as the SU-30SM.

On a similar note, Algeria and Venezuela are inducting less advanced SU-30MK2 and MKAs, which means that future spending is likely to focus on other military areas.

Elsewhere, South Korea has opted for American F-15Ks
instead of the SU-35 or European fighters for its F-X buy, and their
next competition has skipped the SU-35 to invite the next-generation PAK-FA/ future SU-50. Saudi Arabia, which has become more receptive to purchases from Russia, bought Eurofighters
as the future of their air force. Brazil, which could have
significantly expanded Russia’s Latin American penetration, did not
shortlist the SU-35 for the final round of its F-X2 future fighter competition.

The Middle East offers limited opportunities for Russian fighters
these days, with some potential among long-standing clients in Libya,
Syria, and possibly Iran, but competition from France’s Rafale in
particular must be expected in Libya,
in the wake of Gadhaffi’s ouster. Assuming that Libya buys any high-end
fighters at all over the next decade. The SU-35 could be useful to
other countries in the Middle East, but most are already committed to
other suppliers. Success is possible, and it would be important to the
platform, but any win would require a breakthrough.

The newly oil-rich countries around Africa’s Gulf of Guinea offer
easier opportunities, but sales will face competition from China, as
well as from the west.

Emerging South Asian markets like Indonesia and Vietnam
also offer promise, and are less inclined to buy either Chinese or
western fighters, but initial orders from that quarter have involved
earlier-generation SU-27/30s, and future orders are likely to be
limited.

Overall, the numbers add up far less favorably for the SU-35 than they did for its earlier cousins.

SU-35: Contracts and Key Events


2011 – 2012

Russia buys SU-30SMs; Russian plans to 2020; Final SU-35S model flies; Libya derailment; China impasse.

Russian SU-35
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April 17/12: China. RIA Novosti quotes

Russian state-controlled arms exporter Rosoboronexport said on Tuesday,
who says that the 18+ month long negotiations to sell Su-35s to China
have been put on hold. The Chinese only wanted to buy a few, and the
Russians weren’t interested in selling them a few templates for Chinese
copying efforts.

Rosoboronexport deputy chief Viktor Komardin characterized Russia as
wanting “a large consignment to make [the deal] economically viable.”
Translation: China would have to buy large numbers of SU-35s, under a
contract with strict and enforceable cancellation penalties. See also
Nov 16/10 entry.

March 30/12: Russia plans. Russian Air Force
commander Gen. Alexander Zelin discusses their aircraft acquisition
plans under Russia’s Weapons Program 2011-2020. Those plans include
about 100 SU-35 and SU-30SM fighters put together, and their conflation
could be a worrying sign. The VVS also expects to field 60 Sukhoi PAKFA
(T-50) stealth fighters by 2020, and intends to buy 140 SU-34 long range
strike fighters.

The SU-35’s future may ride on how many of the 70 remaining VVS orders before 2020 request it, instead of more SU-30SMs. AIN Online. See also March 16/10 entry.

March 23/12: Russian setback. Russia’s own VVS
moves to buy 30 SU-30SM fighters, for delivery by 2015. These planes are
a version of the canard-winged, thrust-vectoring SU-30MKI/M variant
that was developed for India, and has since been exported to Algeria and
Malaysia. Which raises the question: why didn’t Russia buy 30 more
SU-35S fighters? A RIA Novosti article offers one explanation:

“Irkut has been churning out these planes for 10
years thanks to its completely streamlined production method. This means
that its products are of high quality, relatively cheap… and will be
supplied on time.
It is one thing if, in order to make 30 aircraft, you have to
breathe life into an idling plant, to fine-tune (or develop anew) your
technological method, buy additional equipment, and – still worse – hire
personnel. But it’s quite another if you have been manufacturing
standardized aircraft for years and years and can easily divert your
workforce to produce an “improved” modification for your own country’s
Air Force…. This approach (buying quickly and on the cheap what can be
produced immediately) has been growing in popularity in the Russian
military.”

There is a contract for 48 SU-35s, but the production rate doesn’t
appear to be very advanced yet. If Bogdanov’s analysis is correct, the
SU-35 could have a problem. It would mean that more SU-30SMs become a
very attractive near-term choice for the next few years, as Russia’s
rearmament program kicks into gear. Farther down the road, the T-50
PAK-FA stealth fighter (likely to become the SU-50), will be a priority
after 2016 or so. In that scenario, the SU-35 could find itself starved
of budgetary oxygen at home, followed by avoidance abroad in favor of
the SU-30MKx models that have already been exported to Algeria, India,
and Malaysia.

CONTINUACIÓN:

Sept 19/11: Testing. Sukhoi says
that its SU-35 fighters have carried out more than 300 test flights at
the 929th State Flight Test Center (GLITS), and offers a number of data
points regarding the aircraft.

“The maximum ground-level speed is 1,400 km/h, speed at
altitude – 2400 km/h, the ceiling – 18 thousand meters. The detection
range of targets in the “air-to-air” mode is over 400 km. This is
significantly higher than that of the combat aircraft currently in
service. The onboard OLS (optical locator station) can detect and track
multiple targets at ranges exceeding 80 km…. a new phased antenna array
radar with a long aerial target detection range and with an increased
number of simultaneously tracked and engaged targets (30 aerial targets
tracked and 8 targets engaged plus the tracking of 4 and engagement of 2
ground targets).... The radar signature of the fighter has been reduced
by several times as compared to that of the fourth-generation aircraft
by coating the cockpit with electro-conducting compounds, applying radio
absorption coats and reducing the number of protruding sensors. The
service life of the aircraft is 6,000 hours flight hours…. The assigned
service life of vectored thrust engines is 4,000 hours.”

May 3/11: Final SU-35S model. Sukhoi begins flight
tests for its final series production version SU-35S model. Among other
things, it marks the program’s recovery from the April 26/09 accident. Sukhoi [in Russian] | Russia’s RIA Novosti | China’s Xinhua | DefenceWeb | Flight International.

Feb 27/11: Libya. Russia’s Interfax news agency
says that a recent UN embargo on arms sales to Libya, in the wake of the
regime’s military attacks on demonstrators, could cost Russia $4
billion:

“The already-signed arms deals between Moscow and Tripoli
amount to $2 billion, while deals for another $1.8 billion are in the
final stage of readiness. In January 2010 the two sides agreed on supply
of Russia’s small arms, six operational trainers Yak-130 and some
armored vehicles for total of $US 1.3 billion. Libya has been supposed
to become the first country to get Su-35 fighter jets, the contract to
buy 15 jets for $800 million is fully accorded and ready to be signed.
Tripoli also expressed interest in buying 10 Ka-52 Alligator assault
helicopters, two advanced long range S-300PMU2 Favorit air defense
missile system and about 40 short range Panzir C1 air defense complexes
for a total over $1 billion. The Libyan military has also discussed
possible supply of modern tanks, multiple rocket launcher systems, high
speed missile boats etc.”

If the civil war drags on long enough, don’t be surprised to see a
number of these potential sales revived, even as other
counter-insurgency related equipment steps to the fore. Russia could
wind up finds ways to skirt UN sanctions and support its client,
something that has been an issue before with countries like Sudan. China
could do the same, and has a long history of supporting civil war
factions without regard to human suffering or disposition, in exchange
for medium-long term resource deals. Russia Today | AFP.

2009 – 2010

Russia orders 48; KnAAPO gets financing; Crash delays program; Opportunities in China, Libya.

Ready for takeoff
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Nov 16/10: China. At Airshow China 2010 in Zhuhai, Rosoboronexport Deputy General Director Alexander Mikheyev tells RIA Novosti
that Russia is ready to hold talks with China on selling SU-35 fighter
aircraft to the Chinese air force. That’s a bit of a surprise, given
China’s consistent record of buying, copying, and then competing with
Russian technologies – see “The China Factor,” above. On the other hand,
Mikheyev also told RIA Novosti that:

“We have made progress in an understanding of [illegal
production of Russian arms in China]. Moreover, all the documents
concerning the protection of intellectual property have been signed….
China does not refuse to discuss these issues, which are primarily a
concern for Russia.”

It would be darkly amusing to many in western defense organizations
to have Russia fleeced in arms-related agreements, by a country that
follows their own pattern of offering paper guarantees, while doing
something else.

Sept 20/10: Financing for KnAAPO. Sukhoi Holding
Company the Yuri Gagarin Aviation Industrial Concern (KnAAPO) in ,
Komsomolsk-na-Amure strikes a financing agreement with Sberbank, the
Savings Bank of Russia. The agreement will allow the firm to invest in
producing the Russian Air Force’s SU-35S orders. Brahmand | Frontier India.

July 23/10: Update. Aviation Week reports from
Farnborough 2010. Sukhoi CEO Mikhail Pogosyan says that the Russian air
force is still set to take delivery of its first Su-35S by the end of
2010, and the firm issues its own release with test results.

Preliminary testing of Su-35 has now been concluded with 270 flights
and 350 flight hours, using 2 rather than 3 aircraft after a fire
destroyed one of the prototypes (vid. April 26/09). The NIIP Tikhomirov
Irbis passive phased-array radar was also a focus of testing, and moves
were made to reduce radar signature by adding radar-absorbent materials
and removing protruding sensors. They add:

“Tripoli will likely be the launch export customer [for the
SU-35S]. Alexander Mikheev, deputy head of Rosoboronexport, Russia’s
state-owned arms export agency, confirmed at Farnborough that the
contract for delivery of undisclosed number of aircraft to Libya, one of
the traditional recipients of Soviet armaments, is expected to be
signed this year. The first export production slots are available from
2012.”

March 16/10: Russian plans. In “The future of the Russian Air Force: 10 years on”,
RIA Novosti military commentator Ilya Kramnik discusses planned buys
and pending recapitalization of the Russian Air Force over the next
decade:

“According to various media reports, the Ministry wants to
buy at least 1,500 aircraft, including 350 new warplanes, by 2020. The
fleet would include 70% new equipment at that point, said Air Force
Commander-in-Chief Colonel General Alexander Zelin…. The Defense
Ministry has now signed contracts for the purchase of 32 Su-34 Fullback
advanced fighter-bombers to be delivered by 2013, 48 Su-35 Flanker-E
fighters by 2015, 12 Su-27SM Flanker-B Mod. 1 fighters by 2011, 4
Su-30M2 Flanker-C planes by 2011 and 12 Su-25UBM Frogfoot combat
trainers. This year, the Defense Ministry intends to sign a contract for
the delivery of 26 MiG-29K Fulcrum-D fighters by 2015. Additional
contracts for the delivery of at least 80 Su-34s and 24-48 Su-35s are
expected to be signed. In all, the Russian Air Force is to receive
240-260 new aircraft of these types. It is hard to say much about the
specifications of another 100-110 aircraft, due to be manufactured
primarily after 2015. They will probably include 25-30 MiG-35 fighters,
another 12-16 Su-30 combat trainers for Su-35 squadrons and 40-60 Sukhoi
T-50 PAK FA (Advanced Frontline Aviation Aircraft System)
fifth-generation fighters….”

Nov 17/09: Sukhoi announces that it has begun work on Russia’s SU-35S contract.

Nov 15/09: Libya. Interfax quotes Rosoboronexport’s special missions director and Dubai Airshow delegation chief Mikhail Zavaly:

“Libya wants to buy our aircrafts, including Sukhoi
fighter jets and Ilyushin Il-76 military airlifters,” Zavaly told
Interfax on Sunday. The talks deal with the technical details of the
planes offered to Libya, he said. After technical arrangements are
approved, “the Russian side will make commercial proposals to Libya,”
Zavaly said.”

Oct 19/09: Libya. Russia’s Interfax media agency
reports that Libya plans to buy 12-15 Sukhoi Su-35 multirole fighters,
another 4 Su-30s as an immediate interim order, and 6 Yakovlev Yak-130
trainer and light attack aircraft aircraft. Reports indicate that a
contract could be signed with state arms export agency Rosoboronexport
by the end of 2009, or early 2010.

Libya has also been in talks with France to buy its Rafale fighters since late 2007. A Sukhoi deal is likely to end the Rafale’s near-term chances in Libya. UPI report.

Aug 18/09: Russia orders 48. The Russian government
signs the SU-35’s inaugural production contract at the Russian MAKS
2009 air show. The Russian Defense Ministry has reportedly signed a
contract with Sukhoi to deliver 48 SU-35s by 2015, plus an interim buy
of 12 single-seat SU-27SM and 4 dual-seat SU-30M2 multirole fighters by
2011.

RIA Novosti cites “open sources” that estimate the flyaway cost an
SU-35 at about $65 million. This contract should be larger, since it’s a
new type that must carry the additional costs of training spares
stocks, etc. Statements place the contract’s value at “over 80 billion”
roubles, where RUB 80 billion is currently about $2.51 billion. The
contract follows on the heels of RUB 3.2 billion (about $100 million) in
capital injected into Sukhoi, and Vnesheconombank head Vladimir
Dmitriyev said the national development bank would grant Sukhoi a 3.5
billion-ruble (about $109 million) loan to start SU-35 production. ITAR-TASS | ITAR-TASS re: loans, contract value | RIA Novosti | RIA Novosti’s Russia Today | domain-b | Flight International.

April 26/09: Crash. An Su-35 burst into flames and
exploded before take-off at the Komsomolosk-na-Amure Aviation Production
Association (KNAAPO) Dzemgi flight test aerodrome. Yevgeniy Frolov, one
Sukhoi’s most experienced pilots, managed to eject safely before the
aircraft exploded. The crash may jeopardize the SU-35’s expected
appearance over Russia’s May Day festivities, and will delay testing. To
make matters worse, this 2nd operational aircraft was carrying a new
NIIP Irbis-E radar set, which will require some effort to replace. The Weekly Standard adds:

“Su-35 programme representatives told THE WEEKLY STANDARD
that the crash was the fault of one of the NPO Saturn 117S engine’s PMC
units and not a failure of a fuel pump, as had been previously reported.
“One of the engine’s control systems failed and the engine was working
at only 93 per cent power,” said the representative.”

March 23/09: Flight #100. KNAAPO announces
that the Su-35 has made its 100th flight, during which they conducted
final tests of the flight control system. Flight tests began Feb 18/08,
and in the second quarter of 2009 another test aircraft is expected to
join the current 2-plane fleet.

The firm expects to bring the number of flights up to 150-160 on 3
fighters, allowing them to finish static tests and start the
super-maneuverability mode testing with the plane’s thrust-vectoring
engines. First deliveries to Russian and foreign customers are still
scheduled for 2011.

2007 – 2008

Maiden flight; Eliminated in Brazil.

SU-35 early concept
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Oct 2/08: 2nd test plane. Sukhoi says they have
started flight tests of the second SU-35 production fighter. “The
addition of the second aircraft to the testing program will speed up its
completion and ensure the beginning of deliveries to our customers in
2011.”

Since its demonstration flight on July 7/08, the first production aircraft has made over 40 more test flights. RIA Novosti.

Oct 1/08: Brazil loss. Brazil has decided on its 3 finalists: Boeing’s F/A-18E/F Super Hornet, Dassault Aviation’s Rafale, and Saab/BAE’s JAS-39 Gripen.

EADS Eurofighter, Lockheed Martin’s F-16BR, and Sukhoi’s SU-35 all failed to make the cut. Brazilian FAB release [Portuguese] | Reuters | Boeing release | Gripen International release.

July 9/08: A Sukhoi release says that it has
presented the newest SU-35 multi-role to the “Flight Scientific Research
Institute named after Gromov in Zhukovsky near Moscow,” where earlier
test flights have taken place.

It adds that the SU-35 is one of the priority programs of the new
United Aviation Corporation (UAC), resulting from the government’s
consolidation of Russia’s aerospace industry, and notes that Russia’s
5th generation PAK-FA fighter project will not be fielded before
2015-2017. In contrast, batch production and deliveries of the SU-35 are
promised between 2010-2011. Moscow News | Russian release (English version not yet on web).

March 6/08: Maiden flight. Russia test flies SU-35.
The first Su-35 prototype made its maiden flight on Feb 18/08, and 2
more aircraft are being prepared for similar tests at an aircraft
manufacturing plant in Russia’s Far East. The company expects the jet to
enter service with Russia’s military in 2-3 years. RIA Novosti.

Sept 4/07: Clarity? A subsequent Flight International article may begin to offer clarity
re: the platform. It states categorically that the SU-35-1 design,
unveiled at Russia’s MAKS 2007 air show, is a single-seat aircraft
without canard foreplanes, but with a lighter airframe than the SU-27,
enlarged fan and engine inlets, 2 NPO Saturn/Ufa MPO Item 117S engines
that reportedly offer thrust vectoring and supercruise performance in
clean layout, 2t more fuel, modernized electronics at all levels, a
Tikhomirov NIIP Irbis (updated N-011M Bars) passive electronically
scanned array radar, 6,000 hour airframe life, and 4,000 hour engine
life.

Additional Readings

• RusArm Air Forces Catalog [odd mixed web/PDF format]
  

• Air Power Australia – Sukhoi Flankers: The Shifting Balance of Regional Air Power.
  Program history, details, regional procurement notes, and analysis of
  the SU-30 family’s current capabilities and likely future upgrades.
  

• Sukhoi – Su-35
  

• KnAAPO – THE SU-35 Single-Seat Multi-Role Super-Maneuverable Fighter
  

• Fighter Tactics Academy – Sukhoi Su-35. By Sergei Drobyshev, Head of the Regional Policy and Marketing Department, KnAAPO
  

• Aeronautics.RU – Sukhoi Su-35. Caveat: most descriptions written in 1998-2002, but does bring in an interesting variety of sources.
  

• Ubisoft Forums (Aug 20/04) – How is SU-35UB different from SU-MKK? Reader forum Q&A. Caveat reader.
  

yo creo que si se verán su-35 por estos lares pal 2014 si dios quiere! y pasamos la prueba del tiempo! ya deben estar adelantadas esas negociaciones y solo a espera de ver la respuesta de tiempos de entrega para finiquitar las mismas!
solo especulo a costa de simple sentido común y analizando lo fluida de la situación actual mundial! ojala así sea amen!

Y cuando se compre el SU-35 (ya lo verán en estos cielos patrios)..van a empezar la lala con el T-50..Disfrutemos lo que se tiene..Tiempo al tiempo Onix..Y con lo d las bolas bien puestas, te parece poco lo que se ha comprado y las decisiones que se han tomado? ademas si se llegara a adquirir el Super Flanker primero esperar que Rusia Incorpore sus unidades y como escribe Anti-impe para 2014 mas menos..Paciencia

Buenos que nuestros Chies te oigan!!!!

yo ya los hubiera comprado, y estria metiendo mano al proyecto T-50 y al nuevo proyecto Rusia India.

Chavez a Boris Castellanos de VTV: "viste que los rusos pusieron a volar el su-35?......estamos interesados..... hasta ahi te lo dejo"

MIG-V escribió:Chavez a Boris Castellanos de VTV: "viste que los rusos pusieron a volar el su-35?......estamos interesados..... hasta ahi te lo dejo"

cuando fue eso?? esta tarde??

MIG-V escribió:Chavez a Boris Castellanos de VTV: "viste que los rusos pusieron a volar el su-35?......estamos interesados..... hasta ahi te lo dejo"

habla CTM!! xD!! cuando lo dijo?? fue esta tarde cuando estaba hablando por telefono??

yo vi en el 8 a chavez hablando en el patio de miraflores en vivo con Boris, supongo que ahi lanzo esa perla

A las 6 y 45 pm aproximadamente, en pase a prensa a Miraflores donde Boris hizo algunas preguntas al presidente referidas al segundo plan socialista..Al despedirse le pregunta Chavez a Boris si se ha vuelto a montar en Su-30 y salio a colación lo referido anteriormente.. Aja!!!!! cuidao Onix con un paro cardiaco

Angel escribió:yo vi en el 8 a chavez hablando en el patio de miraflores en vivo con Boris, supongo que ahi lanzo esa perla

Interesante...!! ...

belushitaxx escribió:

MIG-V escribió:Chavez a Boris Castellanos de VTV: "viste que los rusos pusieron a volar el su-35?......estamos interesados..... hasta ahi te lo dejo"

habla CTM!! xD!! cuando lo dijo?? fue esta tarde cuando estaba hablando por telefono??

Vergacion Belu mi internet es arrrrrrrrrrrrrgo lento no te puedo responder mas rapido

MIG-V escribió: A las 6 y 45 pm aproximadamente, en pase a prensa a Miraflores donde Boris hizo algunas preguntas al presidente referidas al segundo plan socialista..Al despedirse le pregunta Chavez a Boris si se ha vuelto a montar en Su-30 y salio a colación lo referido anteriormente.. Aja!!!!! cuidao Onix con un paro cardiaco

A la verga...!! entonces esos podrian ser "los aviones que no se pueden nombrar"?? recordemos q chavez mando a ampliar varias pistas de aterrizaje en el oriente de venezuela y algunas pistas de los llanos para que pudieran aterrizar y despegar "aviones q no se pueden nombrar"!! ...!! ahora si q le va a dar algo al super drogo de onyx!! !!

yo digo que si sale esa compra hay que hacer la parrilla Venemil!

MIG-V escribió:

belushitaxx escribió:

MIG-V escribió:Chavez a Boris Castellanos de VTV: "viste que los rusos pusieron a volar el su-35?......estamos interesados..... hasta ahi te lo dejo"

habla CTM!! xD!! cuando lo dijo?? fue esta tarde cuando estaba hablando por telefono??

Vergacion Belu mi internet es arrrrrrrrrrrrrgo lento no te puedo responder mas rapido

Discurrrrrrrrpame pues mijo!! xD!! (K)!! :$!!

Angel escribió:yo digo que si sale esa compra hay que hacer la parrilla Venemil!

Hay q hacer un evento q vaya acorde a la cantidad de naves que se adquieran, es decir: entre 12 y 18 SU-35, un par de cervezas. entre 18 y 24 naves, un par de cervezas y pErrila, 24 o mas aviones = cervezas, pErrila y chics malas y asi sucesivamente!! lol!!

P.D: horaes solo va a tomar limonada, cero pErrilla por el colesterol y cero chicas malas. tenemos q cuidar al señor de un infarto al miocardio, no podria soportar una diabla de esas encima!! (horaes arrecho en 3,2,1...) xD!!

jeje tranquilo belu...Angel me anoto en esa parrillada con los panas Venemil