Relaciones geopolitica y Militares Venezuela-Irán

Admin escribió:Creo que se iba de viaje para su segunda patria

casper escribió:

Admin escribió:Creo que se iba de viaje para su segunda patria

Y esa segunda patria es?

salu2

zuhe escribió:Saludos:

Epa Daniel que datos nos tienes de los acuerdos militares entre Irán y Venezuela.

J0SEFERNAND0 escribió:Nosotros necesitamos el Shahed-278 como helo ligero, para instrucción, pero tambien para tareas de enlace y policia.

Literalmente todos los cuatros componentes requieren renovar su flota de helos ligeros.

Yo hice un calculo hace años (y es por eso que Zuhe me menciona en su mensaje), segun lo cual entre el Ejército, la Guardia Nacional, la Armada y la Aviación Militar, así como la nueva Policia Nacional, Venezuela requeria no menos de 60 de estos aparatos (por la medida pequeña). Sin meter lo que requieren otros ministerios e institutos nacionales.

Montar una linea de producción de esta nave en el pais es un exito seguro, porque tambien tendria salida comercial en el sector civil el mismo.

Les recuerdo que el Shahed-278 es un helo basado en el Bell Ranger, pero es un rediseño aerodinamico del mismo, y es 100% producto irani, desde los motores, el rotor, la avionica, todo.

Ellos, los iranies, si tienen algunos upgrades de Bell Ranger, pero son otra cosa. El Shahed-278 es un helo nuevo.

Helicóptero de ataque ligero Shahed 285

El HESA Shahed 285 es un helicóptero de ataque ligero/de reconocimiento desarrollado en Irán. Se dio a conocer el 24 de mayo de 2009. Se produce en dos versiones: ataque ligero/ reconocimiento y versión de patrulla marítima/anti-buque. Es un desarrollo originado en el Bell 206 y Panha Shabaviz 2061. Tiene ciertas semejanzas con el prototipo argentino Cícare CH-14.
Especificaciones:
Origen: Irán
Diseño: CGRI
Fabricante: HESA
Diseño: Monoplaza
Tipo: Uso militar (Ataque ligero/reconocimiento y versión antibuque/patrullaje naval
Construcción: Materiales compuestos
Peso vacío: 682 kg
Peso máximo de despegue: 1451 kg
Techo de servicio: 5430 m
Velocidad máxima: 240 km/h.
Motor: 1 turboeje Rolls-Royce 250, Turbomeca y equivalentes de origen ruso
Capacidad de combustible: 287 litros
Techo de servicio: 6400 m
Alcance: 340 kilómetros

Fuente: Wikipedia (Traducción libre Desarrollo y Defensa)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HESA_Shahed_285

Ch0pos escribió:Se ve frágil ese helicóptero.

J0SEFERNAND0 escribió:La versión naval, se ve ideal para que equipen a nuestros futuros nodrizas. Con un buen misil, pueden constituirse en caza-nodrizas.

Admin escribió:Interesante el video, de seguro debe tener componente comunes con los Helicopteros Bell

A y claro costar la cuarta parte o menos que u Mi-28NhE

Como helicoptero de instruccion debe quedar bien a demas de muchas otras labores

J0SEFERNAND0 escribió:La versión naval, se ve ideal para que equipen a nuestros futuros nodrizas. Con un buen misil, pueden constituirse en caza-nodrizas.

zuhe escribió:

J0SEFERNAND0 escribió:La versión naval, se ve ideal para que equipen a nuestros futuros nodrizas. Con un buen misil, pueden constituirse en caza-nodrizas.

Bueno el misil si no me equivoco se basa en el misil chino C-701, en irán los denominan Kosar TL-6 y viene en dos versiones TL-10A y TL-6B, y sospecho por el cambio de tamaño que le incrementaron el alcance.

J0SEFERNAND0 escribió:

Exactamenete, ese es, el Yingji-7. Aunque no conocia esas otras versiones.

Fuente: JANE'S DEFENCE WEEKLY - NOVEMBER 17, 2004

China aids Iran's tactical missile programme
Robert Hewson Editor Jane's Air-Launched Weapons
Zuhai, China

China is producing several families of tactical guided missiles, primarily for the anti-ship role, that appear to have been designed and developed for a single export customer - Iran.

At the China Air Show 2004, in Zhuhai during late October and early November, the Hongdu Aviation Industry Group, exhibited three variants of two new missiles - the JJ/TL-6B, JJ/TL-10A and KJ/TL-10B.

These weapons are identical to Iranian missiles known as Nasr (TL-6) and Kosar (TL-10). Brochures produced by the Iran Aerospace Industries Organisation (IAIO) appear to carry photos of even the same models exhibited in China, labelled with Iranian programme names. It is now clear that two missile programmes revealed a few years ago by China National Aero Technology Import & Export Co (CATIC) - the FL-8 and FL-9 - were the TL-10 and TL-6, respectively, under yet another name.

A third weapon exhibited at Zhuhai and destined for Iran was a new variant of the China Aerospace Science and Industry Corporation (COSIC) C-701 anti-ship missile, the radar-guided C-701R. The C-701 has previously been presented by the IAIO in Iran, where it is claimed as a national programme

Of the newly unveiled missiles the smaller KJ/TL-10 series appears to have made the most progress. Development work began during the mid-1990s and Hongdu publicity material from Zhuhai shows a TL-10 being fired from an unidentified naval ship. A Hongdu spokesperson told JDW that deliveries of the TL-10A variant were already under way to a foreign customer. It was stressed that both the TL-6 and TL-10 programmes are for export and not for national use. The officials added that the radar-guided TL-10B and TL-6B missiles were still in development with perhaps another two years remaining until they were operational.

Conflicting accounts were given as to whether the missiles are, or will be, both air- and surface-launched. The Chinese abbreviation KJ indicates an air-to-ship missile (Kong Jian), while the JJ designator is for a surface-to-surface weapon (Jian Jian). The TL (Dragonfly) name identifies the missile family within Hongdu, a unit of China Aviation Industry Corporation II (AVIC II). JDW was told that the radar-guided TL-10B would be a helicopter-launched weapon, while an air-launched version of the TL-6 was also part of that missile's development plan. Helicopters were identified as the platform for an air-launched TL-6, but elsewhere at the show AVIC I displayed a model of the Shenyang F-8IIM carrying TL-6 missiles.

The latest C-701R missile from COSIC, the parent company of the better-known China Precision Machinery Import Export Co, CPMIEC, is fitted with a radar seeker (believed to be a millimetre wave radar) replacing the earlier electro-optical seeker of the C-701T. Effective range now stands at 25 km. The C-701R has been redesigned with a longer missile body and the deletion of the pop-out fin tips found on the C-701T.

The size, shape and general performance of the C-701 is very similar to that of the TL-10 series. Both weapons are clearly intended for Iran but it is not known why two apparently competing designs have evolved for the same customer. Iranian sources show that both the TL-10 and C-701 missiles are included within the national Kosar programme. Chinese industry representatives at Zhuhai declined to comment on links with Iran.

Related Article:
China, Iran share missile know how (JDW 4 December 2002)

SPECIFICATIONS
JJ/TL-6B radar-guided ship-to-ship missile
Length: 3.4-3.5 m
Diameter: 28 cm
Wingspan: 900 mm
Weight: 350-360 kg
Warhead: 30 kg semi-armour piercing
Propulsion: dual thrust, dual chamber solid rocket motor
Level flight speed: M0.8-0.9
Range: 4-35 km*

JJ/TL-10A TV-guided air-to-ship missile
Length: 2.5 m
Diameter: 18 cm
Wingspan: 568 mm
Weight:105 kg
Warhead: 30 kg semi-armour piercing
Propulsion: twin thrust twin chamber solid rocket motor
Level flight speed: M0.85
Range: 4-18 km*

KJ/TL-10B radar-guided air-to-ship missile
Length: 2.5 m
Diameter: 18 cm
Wingspan: 568 mm
Weight: 105 kg
Warhead: 30 kg semi-armour piercing
Propulsion: twin-thrust twin chamber solid rocket motor
Level flight speed: M0.85
Range: 4-18 km*

*range values are revised from brochure figures, and stated by Hongdu

C-701R radar-guided anti-ship missile (revised specifications)
Length: 2.685 m
Diameter: 18 cm
Wingspan: 586 mm
Weight: 117 kg