L-15...un hecho!!

China Chooses Cheap For New Pilots
June 9, 2010: China has decided not to buy the high-performance JL-15 jet trainer it has been developing (with help from Russian and Ukrainian firms) for nearly a decade. At least not yet. The 9.5 ton, twin engine JL-15 can achieve supersonic speeds, and has the kind of high-tech cockpit found in modern fighters. The JL-15 was designed to be produced in two versions; advanced trainer, and initial fighter trainer. This would smooth the transition to high end aircraft like the J-10 (similar to the F-16) and J-11 (an Su-27 clone).

Instead of the JL-15, the air force and navy are buying JL-9s. This is an upgraded version of the JJ-7 trainer, which was based on the J-7 (a Chinese copy of the Russian MiG-21). The JL-9 has side air intakes, and a radar dome up front. It doesn't look a lot like a MiG-21, and is somewhat easier to fly. While the JL-15 is a few years away from production, the JL-9 just entered production and is several million dollars cheaper than the twin-engine JL-15. Apparently, the Chinese believe that it's better, and cheaper, for new J-10 and J-11 pilots to learn in these aircraft, rather than spending more time in the pricey, but similar in performance, JL-15s.

Prietocol escribió:la mostre hace como un mes, y casi me comen diciendome que no que era mentira

taurus38 escribió:ENTERESE.

China Chooses Cheap For New Pilots
June 9, 2010: China has decided not to buy the high-performance JL-15 jet trainer it has been developing (with help from Russian and Ukrainian firms) for nearly a decade. At least not yet. The 9.5 ton, twin engine JL-15 can achieve supersonic speeds, and has the kind of high-tech cockpit found in modern fighters. The JL-15 was designed to be produced in two versions; advanced trainer, and initial fighter trainer. This would smooth the transition to high end aircraft like the J-10 (similar to the F-16) and J-11 (an Su-27 clone).

Instead of the JL-15, the air force and navy are buying JL-9s. This is an upgraded version of the JJ-7 trainer, which was based on the J-7 (a Chinese copy of the Russian MiG-21). The JL-9 has side air intakes, and a radar dome up front. It doesn't look a lot like a MiG-21, and is somewhat easier to fly. While the JL-15 is a few years away from production, the JL-9 just entered production and is several million dollars cheaper than the twin-engine JL-15. Apparently, the Chinese believe that it's better, and cheaper, for new J-10 and J-11 pilots to learn in these aircraft, rather than spending more time in the pricey, but similar in performance, JL-15s.

Acheron escribió:http://www.strategypage.com/htmw/htmurph/20100609.aspx


http://www.airforcesmonthly.com/view_news.asp?ID=2111

Y en realidad el que elijan el JL-9 tiene todo el sentido del mundo dada a la enorme cantiad de F-7 que poseen.
Y para mi el mercado del L-15 es bastante limitado cuando existen el MB346, YAK-130, T/A-50, Hawk 120.

Singapore ya escogio el MB346 como entrenador y reemplazo de los A-4, y como ya sabemos el YAK-130 tiene clientes. Sin mencionar los Hawk 120 que ya tiene de clientes a Sur Africa, Australia e Inglaterra.

J0SEFERNAND0 escribió:

taurus38 escribió:ENTERESE.

China Chooses Cheap For New Pilots
June 9, 2010: China has decided not to buy the high-performance JL-15 jet trainer it has been developing (with help from Russian and Ukrainian firms) for nearly a decade. At least not yet. The 9.5 ton, twin engine JL-15 can achieve supersonic speeds, and has the kind of high-tech cockpit found in modern fighters. The JL-15 was designed to be produced in two versions; advanced trainer, and initial fighter trainer. This would smooth the transition to high end aircraft like the J-10 (similar to the F-16) and J-11 (an Su-27 clone).

Instead of the JL-15, the air force and navy are buying JL-9s. This is an upgraded version of the JJ-7 trainer, which was based on the J-7 (a Chinese copy of the Russian MiG-21). The JL-9 has side air intakes, and a radar dome up front. It doesn't look a lot like a MiG-21, and is somewhat easier to fly. While the JL-15 is a few years away from production, the JL-9 just entered production and is several million dollars cheaper than the twin-engine JL-15. Apparently, the Chinese believe that it's better, and cheaper, for new J-10 and J-11 pilots to learn in these aircraft, rather than spending more time in the pricey, but similar in performance, JL-15s.

¿cual es la fuente de esta noticia?


es una norma sana de todo foro serio exigir la fuente de las noticias, una cosa son comentarios a modo personal, y otro muy distinto, el subir las noticias.

por demas, la logica me indica que China no renunciara al L-15 asi tan facil, pues ademas, tiene al frente un mercado de exportación bien interesante.

seguramente salio de la sala situacional...de tu casa...que vainas no?

el YAK-130 AVANZA con muchos tropiezos y tiene dos accidentes yá en su haber

T/A-50 es un LIFT que es reputado como muy costoso

Que el hawk(que tampoco es barato),sea usado por inglaterra ,suráfrica y australia,no sorprende pero tampoco todos los paises pertenecen a la conmonwealht o derivados,muchos paises ven con malos ojos la alegre vetadera de esos "proveedores"habituales y hoy en día buscan diversificar sus fuentes

es muy poco probable que los chinos,históricamente grandes planificadores,se hallan lanzado al desarrollo de un avión de esta categoría(y a su promoción,lo cual también es dinero),sin un estudio de mercado adecuado.

J0SEFERNAND0 escribió:...sala situacional

...casa

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solo estoy exigiendo, solicitando, recomendando, suplicando, implorando, rogando, recordando, etc... que se debe seguir como una norma de seriedad, el colocar las fuentes de las NOTICIAS

a varios como que ya la Misión Robinson no les es suficiente...

voy a proponerle a chavezcandanga que cree la Misión Robinson bis, para los estudiantes rezagaditos

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Ch0pos escribió:Hay que ponerle burro de radar para lograr eso. Sería como meterle un motor V8 a una moto.

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