Armas Anti Tanque

duway666 escribió:'Stryker' despues de recibir el impacto de 2 RPGs disparados
por rebeldes iraquies (Marzo 2004)



Humvee norteamericano destruido por RPG-7 iraqui.



Yo creo que es mucho lo que se puede hacer con esos jeguetes

Airtronic USA Develops American RPG-7: Meet the Amerikansky Rocket-Propelled Grenade Launcher

By David Crane

April 13, 2009
Updated on 4/26/09.

My good friend and professional contact, prolific infantry small arms/machine gun designer Jim Sullivan (a.k.a. L James Sullivan), has complained to me quite a bit about U.S. military infantry warfighters not having an American version of the Russian RPG-7 / RPG-7V shoulder-launched, anti-tank rocket-propelled grenade weapon system (recoilless rifle) at their disposal to match our current and potential future enemies’ RPG-7s / RPG-7Vs. The advantages of the RPG-7 anti-tank weapon system are several.

First, the size of the RPG-7’s warhead/projectile is not limited to the size of the launcher tube, so you can use variable-size warheads that carry more payload and greater penetrative capability than an M72 LAW (Light Anti-Tank Weapon a.k.a. Light Anti-Armor Weapon) 66mm HEAT warhead. Second, the RPG-7’s reloadable/reusable aspect allows the user to carry a quiver of different types of RPG rounds (i.e. standard HEAT warhead, dual-HEAT warhead, and thermobaric rocket-propelled grenades) on his back and quickly choose the best one for the job, load it, fire it at the target, and then reach back and grab the next one in the quiver (or have his buddy grab it for him), load it, and fire it again, which may offer some tactical advantages over carrying multiple disposable rocket launchers on his back. And third, both the the RPG-7 and enhanced-armor-penetration-capable RPG-29 Vampir (Vampire) recoilless rifles’ respective launcher tubes, ammunition (grenade rounds), and training requirements are significantly less expensive than the U.S. military’s closest equivalents, the M3 Carl-Gustaf 84mm Recoilless Rifle / Multi-Role Man-Portable Anti-Tank Weapon a.k.a. M3 Carl-Gustav Recoilless Anti-Tank Rifle made by Saab AB a.k.a. Saab Bofors Dynamics and the Shoulder-launched Multipurpose Assault Weapon (SMAW) MK153 Mod 0, which is an 83mm multi-purpose recoilless rifle.

The M3 Carl-Gustaf is, no doubt, an excellent weapon system, but it is cost-prohibitive (i.e. too expensive) for many armies to procure it in large numbers. The M3 Carl-Gustaf’s relatively high cost (launcher, ammo, and training) has even contributed to its relatively limited numbers in the U.S. military inventory. The U.S. version is designated as the M3 MAAWS (Multi-role Anti-Armor Anti-personnel Weapon System), and is primarily in use with U.S. military Special Operations Forces (SOF) under USSOCOM a.k.a. SOCOM.


Enter the good folks at Airtronic USA, Inc. who have recently developed an American-version a.k.a. Amerikansky RPG-7 / RPG-7V with a couple of M4/M4A1-Carbine-type features that U.S. military infantry warfighters should enjoy (see features below), and it’s about time somebody did. Quite frankly, an American-made RPG-7 / RPG-7V system is long, long overdue.

Airtronic USA RPG-7 Features:

- Mil-Std-1913 Quad Rail System for mounting combat opics (optical sights), flip-up BUIS (Back Up Iron Sights), aiming lasers/illuminators, tactical white lights, and vertical foregips

- Flip-Up BUIS

- AR-15 Carbine-type Vertical Foregrip

- AR-15/M16 Pistol Grip
http://www.defensereview.com/airtronic-usa-rpg-7-amerikansky-rocket-propelled-grenade-launcher/

En Irak no se conocen Abrams perdido en su totalidad por el RPG-7, pero si inutilizados los cuales han tenido que ser abandonado y destruido por fuerzas propias, lo que condujo a la siguiente mejora:

aquiles escribió:

En Irak no se conocen Abrams perdido en su totalidad por el RPG-7, pero si inutilizados los cuales han tenido que ser abandonado y destruido por fuerzas propias, lo que condujo a la siguiente mejora:

A mi realmente me cuesta creer esto. Es como si USA no tenga en ese campo de batalla los vehículos recuperadores, helicópteros y otras unidades para apoyar al vehículo recuperador. En otras palabras ¿prefieren botar 10 o 20 millones de dolares antes de movilizar las tropas que están allí para hacer ese trabajo?

Pero buen cada quien cree lo que quiere y lo que no.

Admin escribió:Esa creo que aun esta en desarrollo

Russia develops fire-and-forget Kornet
Doug Richardson

Cita:
Russia has developed new fire-and-forget versions of the Tula KBP Kornet-E (AT-14) anti-tank missile, writes Doug Richardson. According to former commander-in-chief of the Russian Ground Forces, General of the Army Nikolay Kormiltsev, these are third-generation variants of the missile.

In an interview given to the Russian military newspaper Krasnaya Zvezda a few weeks before his resignation in late September, Gen Kormiltsev said that the new missiles can be equipped with "a thermal or radio-locating homing head", and could be used against enemy anti-tank missile systems.

Kornet had become a "powerful and efficient weapon" with many advantages over foreign equivalents, he suggested, and was "very simple to use".

In its basic form, the Kornet missile is fired from a tripod-mounted single-round firing post designated the 9P163-1. This includes a standard day sighting and guidance device, but can be fitted with a 1PN79-1 thermal-imaging night sight. A 9P163-2 firing post was developed for vehicle-mounted Kornet systems.

The 9P163-1 missile currently in service is fitted with a tandem high-explosive anti-tank (HEAT) warhead, while the 9M133F-1 carries a thermobaric warhead. Both are laser beam-riding missiles that use semi-automatic command to line-of-sight (SACLOS) guidance. The gunner has to keep his sight on the target until the missile impacts.

With the new third-generation system, the gunner is only required to aim the missile, then give the fire command once lock-on has been obtained.

The 'thermal' pattern of homing head will be a passive-homing seeker able to detect and home onto the infrared (IR) energy emitted by the target. This would make the third-generation Kornet the first Russian fire-and-forget anti-tank missile. There had been reports that an IR terminal-guidance seeker was developed for the command-guided 9M17 Skorpion (AT-2 'Swatter') but not put into service.

In Russian military terminology, the phrase 'radio-locating' is normally used to indicate radar. To be useful against tanks and other small tactical targets, an active-radar seeker would have to operate in the millimetric region.

In the early 1980s, Hughes developed alternative IR and millimetric-wave seekers for the 200 mm-diameter AGM-124 Wasp, while in the 1990s the UK fitted an active-radar millimetric seeker into the 178 mm-diameter Hellfire to create the MBDA Brimstone air-to-surface missile. Russia is known to have studied millimetric guidance systems for missiles, but cramming this technology into the 152 mm fuselage diameter of the Kornet-E would be a difficult undertaking for Russian industry.

Gen Kormiltsev gave no further details of the upgraded system and did not indicate if it was in service, or if it could be fired from upgraded versions of the current ground and vehicle-mounted firing posts.

zuhe escribió:

duway666 escribió:'Stryker' despues de recibir el impacto de 2 RPGs disparados
por rebeldes iraquies (Marzo 2004)



Humvee norteamericano destruido por RPG-7 iraqui.



Yo creo que es mucho lo que se puede hacer con esos jeguetes

¿Y esa no es acaso la configuración anti-RPG-7?

Faust escribió:bueno una cosa es RPGs y otras son ATGM...

no tiene que ver na cosa con la otra

y creo yo, que para la funcion de arma de apoyo de infanteria, el RPG-7 esta bien y es valido

pero pra una funcion antintanque como tal, creo que se debió optar por mejores equipos que el carl gustav

hay tambien que definir que hay varios tipos de equipos que tienen su utilidad definida

una cosa es una lanzagrandas desechable como un RPG-22 o un AT-4 que es especialmente un arma individual en las que se puede dotar un infante comun y normal para que tengan capacidad anticarro y antimaterial en el peloton, y que generalmente no esta entrenado mas que en sus funciones de infante

otra cosa es un lanzagranadas reutilizable, lo que llaman recoilles rifle, que generalmente es un arma de apoyo, como los morteros y ametralladoras medias y pesadas y sistemas antiaereos portatiles, encuadrados en secciones de hombres especializados y dedicados a esa labor, como se usa un carl gustav o un RPG-7

otra cosa es sistemas de misiles portatiles o moviles, que ya son unidades dedicadas que tienen la funcion especifica asignada y tienen esa funcion especifica en la zona territorial asignada, como se utiliza un kornet o MAPATS

Ch0pos escribió:Si, USA si tiene.

casper escribió:Si debe ser que Irak tenia una infraestructura Civil de primer mundo...

Nojoda, sigue contando que los Abrams se van a detener por eso..

salu2

nick7777 escribió:

Ch0pos escribió:Si, USA si tiene.

Cierto,pero si los m-1 quieren transitar por venezuela,tendrán que hacerlo mucho después de ocuparnos,cuando las carreteras se construyan con asfalto del bueno y no con esa aguita negra que pintan los contratistas que las hacen acá(corruptela),no te olvides que acá disponemos de misiles ataka en los helos(no son tan fáciles de borrar si saben ocultarse y dispersarse ),tampòco me creo que a estas horas no se hayan previstos partidas para adquirir RPG-29,KORNET,o alguna otra cosa igual de antipática para los MBT,tampoco escasea la munición y explosivos para construir IED...algo se ha de hacer.

Ch0pos escribió:¿Por qué todos ponen como mal ejemplo UNFFMM?.



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eldoctorchiflado escribió:Hola a todosss

Veo que estan hablando del misil "X" y del tipo "Y" y que si el lanzagranada este es mejor y tal y cual....., pero bueno tambien hay que ver las posibilidades de obtener "minas antitanques" de ultima generacion si yo como miliciano no puedo golpiar como se debe a un M1 como mi lanza granada, por lo menos le trato de dejar en el camino una mina a ver si por lo menos lo deja fuera de combate.

Slds,