Posibles compras del 2011

Ese es otro pote de humo como aquella noticia de no se cuantos Il-114

Si no lo leen en el Blog Venemil no esta confirmado

Resulta que EN ADICION a los S-300 que ya habria negociado el gobierno con Rusia para ser entregados posiblemente este año 2010, resulta que se habla de la posibilidad de que Venezuela adquiera aquellos S-300PMU-1 negados a la RI de Iran. En todo caso, al Rusia ceder a la presion de occidente, habria tambien dejado de venderle helicopteros, tanques, blindados y otros sistemas que al tratarse de una operacion millonaria habria generado muchas criticas dentro de Rusia, inclusive con la afirmacion de que Rusia habria perdido credibilidad e independencia y que esto significaria que los compradores se volcarian a China. En todo caso, esto representaria una oportunidad interesante para Venezuela para poder adquirir aquello que ya estaba empaquetado y listo para ser entregado.

Aqui un articulo de Ria Novosti publicado hoy 15/10/10

Russia may sell S-300 missiles to Venezuela, instead of Iran - analyst

Topic: Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez’ visit to Moscow



Russia's S-300 air defense systems, which Moscow refused to deliver to Iran following a new round of UN sanctions against the Islamic Republic, could be sold to Venezuela instead, a Russian arms trade expert said on Friday.

Russia signed a deal to deliver five battalions of S-300PMU-1 air defense systems to Iran in 2007 but banned the sale in September, saying the systems, along with a number of other weapons, were covered by the fourth round of sanctions imposed by the UN Security Council against Iran over its nuclear program in June.

"Russia is looking for a buyer of five battalions of S-300PMU-1 air defense systems ordered by Iran, which are worth $800 million, and Venezuela could become such a buyer," said Igor Korotchenko, head of a Moscow-based think tank on the international arms trade.

Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez, who is currently on a visit to Russia, earlier said his country was interested in buying different types of Russian-made air defense systems to create a multilayered air defense network.

Venezuela has already purchased 12 Tor-M1 air defense systems, a number of ZU-23-2 anti-aircraft guns and Igla-S portable short-range air defense systems from Russia.

The S-300PMU-1 (SA-20 Gargoyle) is an extended range version of S-300PMU with a limited anti-ballistic missile capability.

Korotchenko said that if the S-300 deal with Venezuela goes through, Caracas should pay cash for the missiles, rather than take another loan from Russia.

"The S-300 is a very good product and Venezuela should pay the full amount in cash, as the country's budget has enough funds to cover the deal," Korotchenko said.

Moscow has already provided Caracas with several loans to buy Russian-made weaponry, including a recent $2.2-mln loan on the purchase of 92 T-72M1M tanks, the Smerch multiple-launch rocket systems and other military equipment.



MOSCOW, October 15 (RIA Novosti)

Y que te garantiza que igualito esos sistemas no se triangulen a IRAN con la vista gorda de Moscu...

Para nosostros mejor entre mas masa mas masamorra y ya esos estan listos para despacho....

Venezuela has already purchased 12 Tor-M1 air defense systems

Moscow has already provided Caracas with several loans to buy Russian-made weaponry, including a recent $2.2-mln loan on the purchase of 92 T-72M1M tanks, the Smerch multiple-launch rocket systems and other military equipment.

Tan tan taaaaaaan... tipo novela... ahora no son 82 t72X (x por lo que sea) si no...92 ... y además... compramos 12 baterías TorM1??????

Arpia escribió:Y que te garantiza que igualito esos sistemas no se triangulen a IRAN con la vista gorda de Moscu...

Para nosostros mejor entre mas masa mas masamorra y ya esos estan listos para despacho....

eso lo solian hacer via Bielorusia...

EL Sistema Antiaéreo que compraria Venezuela ara a Bielorusia, hasta su presidente dijo acá en Venezuela que estarian pronots a entregarlos.

Ahora si le compran a Rusia los de Iran, o es una compra de IRan bajo cuerda o, se estarianb comprando mas para Venezuela. Eso creo.

Ya va, lo que yo tenía entendido era que el Sistema Integrado de Defensa Antiaerea lo está desarrollando Venezuela con Bielorusia, o Bielorusia para Venezuela, el origen de las Baterías Antiaereas de dicho sistema es otra cosa o no???

Nojoda, si estamos comprandole las baterías bajo cuerda para Irán, le debemos sacar los ojos, como ellos no los sacan con cualquier pendejada...

ojala sea mas para venezuela, bastante que hace falta, porque entre, una campaña de saturacion, saboteo interno o grupos de mercenarios o op, esp, nunca es suficiente contra, el complejo militar industrial de usa, ya sea, el brazo que sea el que usen.

Recordemos que Venezuela compro 12 Sistemas de DEfensa S-300 PMU-1 ALMAZ ANTEI 2500 a Bielorusia, ahora esta por comprar 5 (CINCo) unidades que eran para Irán, porlo tanto se suman.

Me alegra mucho lo que viene

10 MI 28 NE mas
10 MI 35M2 mas

36 SU 35BM
48 AN 148
2 Be 200
12 TOR M1
S-300 PMU 1

y los T-90s no joda!!!

y eso que no nos han dicho todo, que vendrá de China, de Belaruz, de Irán?

S-300PMU-1/2 (SA-20)
S-300PMU-2 64N6E2 acquisition radar (part of 83M6E2 command post)

The S-300PMU-1 (Russian С-300ПМУ-1,US DoD designation SA-20A, NATO reporting name SA-20 GARGOYLE) was also introduced in 1992 with the new and larger 48N6 missiles for the first time in a land-based system and introduced all the same performance improvements from the S300FM version including the increased speed, range, TVM guidance and ABM capability.[8] The warhead is slightly smaller than the naval version at 143 kg (315 lb). This version also saw the introduction of the new and more capable 30N6E TOMB STONE radar.

The S-300PMU-1 was introduced in 1999 and for the first time introduces several different kinds of missiles in a single system. In addition to the 5V55R, 48N6E and 48N6E2 missiles the S-300PMU-1 can utilise two new missiles, the 9M96E1 and 9M96E2. Both are significantly smaller than the previous missiles at 330 and 420 kg (728 and 926 lb respectively) and carry smaller 24 kg (53 lb) warhead. The 9M96E1 has an engagement range of 1–40 km (1-25 mi) and the 9M96E2 of 1–120 km (1-75 mi). They are still carried 4 per TEL. Rather than just relying on aerodynamic fins for manoeuvring, they use a gas-dynamic system which allows them to have an excellent probability of kill (Pk) despite the much smaller warhead. The Pk is estimated at 0.7 against a tactical ballistic missile for either missile. The S-300PMU-1 typically uses the 83M6E command and control system, although it is also compatible with the older Baikal-1E and Senezh-M1E CCS command and control systems. The 83M6E system incorporates the 64N6E (BIG BIRD) surveillance/detection radar. The fire control/illumination and guidance radar used is the 30N6E(1), optionally matched with a 76N6 low altitude detection radar and a 96L6E all altitude detection radar. The 83M6E command and control system can control up to 12 TELs, both the self propelled 5P85SE vehicle and the 5P85TE towed launchers. Generally support vehicles are also included, such as the 40V6M tow vehicle, intended for lifting of the antenna post.[citation needed]
S-300PMU-2 vehicles. From left to right: 64N6E2 detection radar, 54K6E2 command post and 5P85 TEL.

The S-300PMU-2 Favorite (Russian С-300ПМУ-2 Фаворит – Favourite, DoD designation SA-20B), introduced in 1997, is an upgrade to the S-300PMU-1 with range extended once again to 195 km (121 mi) with the introduction of the 48N6E2 missile. This system is apparently capable against not just short range ballistic missiles, but now also medium range tactical ballistic missiles. It uses the 83M6E2 command and control system, consisting of the 54K6E2 command post vehicle and the 64N6E2 surveillance/detection radar. It employs the 30N6E2 fire control/illumination and guidance radar. Like the S-300PMU-1, 12 TELs can be controlled, with any mix of 5P85SE2 self propelled and 5P85TE2 trailer launchers. Optionally it can make use of the 96L6E all altitude detection radar and 76N6 low altitude detection radar, just like the S-300PMU-1.[9] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S-300_%28missile%29

bueno ya un experto ruso habia dicho que con una docena de s-300 teniamos para todo el pais, ahora 15? bueno estaba dentro del estimado el carajo, no estab pelado, triste por los pajaros de mal aguero, eso del t90s les debe haber caido como valde de agua fria, jejejeje

yo les habia dicho que la compra era de 600 blindados y casi me pegaban por decir eso u.u!! !! Anti, coloca la fuente en de la noticia que posteaste en "helos de la AMBV".

belushitaxx escribió:yo les habia dicho que la compra era de 600 blindados y casi me pegaban por decir eso u.u!! !! Anti, coloca la fuente en de la noticia que posteaste en "helos de la AMBV".

Belucha y a mi, que a cada rato me golpeaban, humillaban me llamaban bruto, Dr. no se que, porque según ellos yo no entendia que solo eran T-72 y yo insistia tambien vienen los T-90

Asi es la vida de los "nuevos" asi es... !! onyx, haceme un favor y le pedis el link al ANTI en "helos de la AMBV" antes que lo golpee, por fa. empesemos a sacar cuentas de los T-90 que vendran !!

belushitaxx escribió:Asi es la vida de los "nuevos" asi es... !! onyx, haceme un favor y le pedis el link al ANTI en "helos de la AMBV" antes que lo golpee, por fa. empesemos a sacar cuentas de los T-90 que vendran !!

rEFERENTE A LOS T-90

Russia to deliver 35 tanks to Venezuela - Putin
http://en.rian.ru/world/20101015/160972600.html


http://en.rian.ru/mlitary_news/20101015/160973432.html

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Hugo Chavez to talk in Moscow on bilateral coop plans up to 2014

14.10.2010, 02.26


MOSCOW, October 14 (Itar-Tass) - Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez is arriving in Moscow on Thursday in order to discuss with the Russian leadership plans of bilateral interaction up to 2014 that embrace such spheres as military-technical cooperation, creation of joint industrial facilities, financial institutions and housing construction. Over his two-day stay in Moscow he is to hold talks with Russian President Dmitry Medvedev and Prime Minister Vladimir Putin, meet the Moscow leadership, as well as speak at the conference “Two Centuries of Independence of Latin America” that is opening at the Foreign Literature Library on Thursday.

The main result of the visit is expected to be the signing of the Action Plan that, according to the idea of the two countries’ Foreign Ministries, will lay foundations for the development of cooperation for a period up to 2014. The document specifies interaction in such spheres as he foreign policy, financial sector, oil and gas industry, military-technical cooperation, nuclear power industry, telecommunications, agriculture, fisheries, transport, education, health, tourism, sports, culture, liquidation of natural calamities’ aftermath.

Observers say that the fulfilment of the Action Plan tasks will ensure the bilateral trade growth the lion’s share of which is military-technical cooperation.

Venezuela is already the region’s unquestionable leader in the volumes of contracts concluded with Rosoboronexport Russia’s arms exporting company. The sum of contractual obligations exceeds 4 billion US dollars. So, this Latin American country is completing the construction of three military plants – for manufacturing of the AK (Kalashnikov) assault rifles, for the production of cartridges and an aircraft repair plant for servicing Russian helicopter equipment. The supplies of the Tor-M1 air defence missile systems have begun.

Besides, Venezuela intends to buy 10 Ilyushin Il-76MD-90 planes and two Il-78MK refuelling aircraft. Caracas has also confirmed plans for the purchase of up to 10 attack helicopters Mi-28NE in addition to the earlier bought 10 Mi-35M helicopters. In the view of the Rosoboronexport leadership, the country may also become the first export customer for the Sukhoi Su-35 fighters.

Russia also intends to supply to Venezuela a batch of the T-90S tanks. Caracas assesses its need for this class of military equipment at 600 units.

As a result, according to RF Prime Minister Vladimir Putin, the volume of Russian military equipment exports to Venezuela may reach in the near future 5 billion US dollars.

Aside from military-technical cooperation, the two countries have also been developing active civilian cooperation. During a visit of the Russian prime minister to Caracas this April, the Sovcomflot company and the Venezuelan PDV Marina specialising in sea transportation, signed an agreement on intent. Ilyushin Finance and Aeroflot concluded memorandums of understanding with the Venezuelan side. They signed several documents within the framework of the implementation of a project for the joint prospecting and oil production in the basin of the Orinoco River – the Junin-6 field. Besides, Moscow transferred to Caracas 4 transport helicopters Mi-26 thus fulfilling a long-term contract on the supply of 28 such helicopters.

Russia also holds negotiations on the sale of another 50 civilian planes to Venezuela – An-148 and Be-200.

The two sides’ agenda also includes cooperation in the atomic power sphere, Hugo Chavez, in particular, drew attention to the fact that Caracas can build a nuclear power plant in the country with Moscow’s support.

Within the current visit’s framework the Venezuelan leader will also sign the final document on the establishment of a Russian-Venezuelan bank the work on which has been in progress since June 2009. The sides will also create a joint structure with the authorised capital of up to 4 billion US dollars on the basis of Evrofinance-Mosnarbank. It is planned that the Russian side – VTB Bank and Gazprombank will get a 51-percent stake in it. The shareholders from Venezuela will be the State Treasury Bank and the Venezuelan Petroleum Corporation. Experts particularly noted that the bank will make it possible to give financing to joint programmes in a mutually beneficial basis.

Another important issue Chavez plans to touch upon in Moscow is Russia’ s assistance to the construction of social housing for the poorest groups of the population of his country. A delegation of the Moscow government led by former mayor Yuri Luzhkov this May already held talks in Caracas on RF assistance in the working out of the general plan for the development of the Venezuelan capital. They discussed not only construction of dwelling houses, but also the programme of building schools, kindergartens, hospitals, cinema houses, roads, bridges and utilities. In connection with the personnel changes in the Moscow government it remains unknown so far if this project will be viable.

Chavez said earlier that his upcoming official visit to would aim to enhance strategic relations with Russia. “Today Russia is a world power and one of the global poles of power,” the president said in an address to the nation before flying to Moscow. Chavez said he planned to sign “official documents on the creation of a Russian-Venezuelan bank” during the visit. The joint bank will be headquartered in Moscow and have offices in China and Venezuela. Another important item on the agenda will be the use of atomic energy for peaceful purposes. “The first projects are bring drafted to build a nuclear power plant in Venezuela,” he said. “During the visit, the sides will review all agreements on military-technical cooperation with Russia,” Chavez said. “New military hardware will begin to be supplied to Venezuela shortly, at the end of this year and the beginning of next year: several battalions of modern tanks and air defence systems.”

The visit of the Venezuelan president to Russia - the ninth since 2001 – will last until October 15. Then Hugo Chavez will continue his 12-day foreign tour during which he will visit Belarus, Ukraine, Iran, Syria and Portugal.

Onyx, ..rico, pero no vi nada referente a T-90, simplemente se nombraron 35 tanques pero dijeron cual especificamente. pero vamos con calma...seguro llegaran varias de estos carritos.

Anti-imperialista escribió:bueno ya un experto ruso habia dicho que con una docena de s-300 teniamos para todo el pais, ahora 15? bueno estaba dentro del estimado el carajo, no estab pelado, triste por los pajaros de mal aguero, eso del t90s les debe haber caido como valde de agua fria, jejejeje

Triste por ti que las pruebas mas contundentes sea las que apuntan al T-72B, pero alla tu si te gusta caerte a mojones, como parece ser el caso.

belushitaxx escribió:Onyx, ..rico, pero no vi nada referente a T-90, simplemente se nombraron 35 tanques pero dijeron cual especificamente. pero vamos con calma...seguro llegaran varias de estos carritos.

En la noticia expuesta se habla de los T-90 y en las dos link se habla de la compra de 35 Tanques y, como siempre se ha hablado de los T-72 que es una compra vieja, supongo que la noticia (es decir la compra nueva motivo de noticia) sean los T-90

Ahh...ya pille la vuelta!! !! buen analisis!!

Que les parece este Juguete????

Parece un avión de los 60's.

JH-7 ??? No gracias .

ta bien, solo pregunto......

No yo no digo nada solo que jh-7 si aqui mas de uno tiene chinofobia con jh-7 lo que vas es a provocar un genocidio a en todas las quincallas . jajajaja

daniel o'leary escribió:Que les parece este Juguete????

Independientemente del comentario de Xamber; Y para que JH-7 ?? si ya tenemos para ese tipo de cazas los Su-30MK2....